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2016-06-10T00:31:13Z
Was John a bad King?
Loss of continental lands (Normandy)
Submission/ Interdict
Magna Carta
Reputation of lustful
and idle, left Issabella of
Gloucester of 11 years
for young Isabella of
Angouleme
This treatment of the
Lusignans alerted barons on
both sides of the chanel.
By forcing mercenary
troops on people of
Normandy he made ir
easier for them to prefer
alternative lordship.
They took the
positions that the
political elite thought
belonged to them
and mistreated non
combatments. EG
Lupescar pillaged and
throated barons as
though they were on
enemy teritiory
Unlucky, 4th crusade meant
John couldn't form an anti
Capetian alliance with people
such as the Counts of Flanders
and Boulogne
Had to contend with the legendary
faithfulness of the Poituven barons,
once Eleanor died in 1204 they
rebelled, and her death meant
Philip no longer faced an obstacle
trying to get Southern territories
of Angevin Empire
"unenthusiastic
behaviour from the
Norman baronage"
Painter
Angevin rule in Normandy
was indeed already a
guttering candle when John
came to the throne" Seel
Gillingham
"inadequacy of
leadership"
"incorrigible idleness"
"soft sword" Goulet
John's income from the interdict
amounted to 20,000 a year, 3x
raised for Saladin tithe - a good
financial King
Exploited vacant
bishoprics, he played on
the rivalries between
Langton, Panduf and
Innocent to get initial
demand for 100,000
marks down to 40,000
over 6 months and got
support against
rebellious barons and
Philip
"Not a shred of evidence that any lay
person protested, not a mouse
squeaked" Gillingham
Forced to accept Langton,
no authority over the
church. After the
submission there was more
interaction between Church
and Papacy than ever before
Despite this in the next 6
elections his nominees
were elected in all after
1213
John was clever, by submitting he
turned his stern opponent to a
benevolent protector against Philip
Augustus.
"John's reward was now that he was in
much favour in Rome@ Jones
John was an untrustworthy King, causing
the Magna Carta. Long term - rebelled
against his father despite being the
favourite son. He slept with baron's wives
and daughter. Treatment of hostages EG
Arthur. Former favourite William De
Briouzes' wife and son were starved to
death in prisom
Stubornness with the
Lusignans gave Philip power in
Le Goulet
Defeat at Bouvines
1214, Johns final
campaign/chance to
rescue lost territories
He wasn't a bad king, he was no
different from his predecessors,
oppression of the baronage was
a trait common to the Angevin
dynasty - seizure of lands to
ensure royal authority had been
used by Henry II. Hugh Bigod
had his castle seized by the
crown and was forced to pay
£666 for its return
OR, this was only acceptable in
Henry's reign, John failed to
realise he was ruling in a
different context
"John hated all men of wealth and power" Painter
"Far better King
that his brother or
son - probably as
good a one of his
father" Painter
"failure to recognise that the
justified grievances of his barons
were the basic problem" Warren
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